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	<title>Comments on: Learning not to cry in today&#8217;s work place</title>
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		<title>By: CeAnn</title>
		<link>http://stormyscorner.com/2008/06/learning-not-to-cry-in-todays-work-place.html/comment-page-1#comment-1326</link>
		<dc:creator>CeAnn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 00:11:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I cry when I&#039;m mad, sad, happy and mostly frustrated.  I have found this to hold me back in meetings with my bosses especially because people don&#039;t see crying as a sign of frustration.  I hate conflict and that is all that can come out if I’m upset. It has held me back many times if i have felt the need to stand up for myself because all I can do is cry.  I am so passionate about everything in my life to the point where I have tried to care less about things like my job where I have had to learn to clock in and go home without letting it get to me.  I also find that when I&#039;m upset I have to write down all the points that I want to make in a conversation before it actually takes place otherwise I just forget everything I wanted to say and just sit there.  My husband hates this because he feels like I cannot talk to him, but it is just that I will get so emotional I will clam up and not know what to say or how to get it out.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I cry when I&#8217;m mad, sad, happy and mostly frustrated.  I have found this to hold me back in meetings with my bosses especially because people don&#8217;t see crying as a sign of frustration.  I hate conflict and that is all that can come out if I’m upset. It has held me back many times if i have felt the need to stand up for myself because all I can do is cry.  I am so passionate about everything in my life to the point where I have tried to care less about things like my job where I have had to learn to clock in and go home without letting it get to me.  I also find that when I&#8217;m upset I have to write down all the points that I want to make in a conversation before it actually takes place otherwise I just forget everything I wanted to say and just sit there.  My husband hates this because he feels like I cannot talk to him, but it is just that I will get so emotional I will clam up and not know what to say or how to get it out.</p>
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		<title>By: Ella</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 13:35:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a student, not an employee, but this was great for me too. I cry a lot when I laugh, or when I get into fights. This doesn&#039;t just apply in the workplace, it works for school too! Thanks.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a student, not an employee, but this was great for me too. I cry a lot when I laugh, or when I get into fights. This doesn&#8217;t just apply in the workplace, it works for school too! Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Phillip</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phillip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 20:22:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Be careful crying at the workplace. I&#039;ve had 5 corporate jobs over the past two decades, and &lt;B&gt;everyone&lt;/B&gt; that I&#039;ve seen cry at work (there have be a few) has been let go within a few weeks.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Be careful crying at the workplace. I&#8217;ve had 5 corporate jobs over the past two decades, and <b>everyone</b> that I&#8217;ve seen cry at work (there have be a few) has been let go within a few weeks.</p>
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		<title>By: Jessica</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jessica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 08:02:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you all for you much needed comments and to you  Stormy. I was reading this posting at 2 am this morning because I was anticipating my boss yelling at me for a minor error today and knowing that I would cry in response. I have always tried to only show others my very strong side and hide my tears that always end up coming when I can get away from the group. Lately, it&#039;s be harder and harder not to cry. I always thought if I cried it showed weakness, especially at work. My husband has always called me passionate and after reading the above posts, I  have come to realize that sometimes my passion shows itself in tears and I feel better knowing that. Thank you all!!
P.S.
My grouch boss called in sick. Guess I have to wait till Monday to cry.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you all for you much needed comments and to you  Stormy. I was reading this posting at 2 am this morning because I was anticipating my boss yelling at me for a minor error today and knowing that I would cry in response. I have always tried to only show others my very strong side and hide my tears that always end up coming when I can get away from the group. Lately, it&#8217;s be harder and harder not to cry. I always thought if I cried it showed weakness, especially at work. My husband has always called me passionate and after reading the above posts, I  have come to realize that sometimes my passion shows itself in tears and I feel better knowing that. Thank you all!!<br />
P.S.<br />
My grouch boss called in sick. Guess I have to wait till Monday to cry.</p>
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		<title>By: Patty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 08:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really thought I was abnormal since even as a child, I would cry over anything and people would tell me to stop crying and grow up.  Even as an adult now (55 years old)I have moments that I just cannot stop those tears.I cry still because as you said I am very passionate about life in general.  I can cry over commercials I see on TV if they are the least bit touching. I recently went overseas for a month and had a severe situation that I felt trapped in and all I could do was sleep or feel like crying.  The person I was staying with would always tell me &quot;Look at you, You are a grown woman crying about nothing.&quot;  It made me feel worse, so now I am going to therapy to find out why I don&#039;t get seem to get mad, but instead cry and feel helpless.  I am so glad to hear there are others out there that feel the same way.  Thanks!
p.s.  by the way, my horse&#039;s name is Stormy!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really thought I was abnormal since even as a child, I would cry over anything and people would tell me to stop crying and grow up.  Even as an adult now (55 years old)I have moments that I just cannot stop those tears.I cry still because as you said I am very passionate about life in general.  I can cry over commercials I see on TV if they are the least bit touching. I recently went overseas for a month and had a severe situation that I felt trapped in and all I could do was sleep or feel like crying.  The person I was staying with would always tell me &#8220;Look at you, You are a grown woman crying about nothing.&#8221;  It made me feel worse, so now I am going to therapy to find out why I don&#8217;t get seem to get mad, but instead cry and feel helpless.  I am so glad to hear there are others out there that feel the same way.  Thanks!<br />
p.s.  by the way, my horse&#8217;s name is Stormy!</p>
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		<title>By: Stormy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stormy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 05:13:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JM,
I&#039;ve discovered that I respond to loud voices differently depending on whether I&#039;m speaking English or Spanish! In both cases, I get loud too, but in English I can feel myself getting mad too because usually when somebody is yelling in English, they are angry. In Spanish, I more often just get loud, maybe passionate.
Stormy
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JM,<br />
I&#8217;ve discovered that I respond to loud voices differently depending on whether I&#8217;m speaking English or Spanish! In both cases, I get loud too, but in English I can feel myself getting mad too because usually when somebody is yelling in English, they are angry. In Spanish, I more often just get loud, maybe passionate.<br />
Stormy</p>
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		<title>By: JM Ibanez</title>
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		<dc:creator>JM Ibanez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 03:54:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my case, I find that I have a hard time raising my voice even though I am not angry. It&#039;s weird -- when I am quite passionate about something, and when discussing something, I tend to raise my voice as though I was lecturing a large classroom instead of talking in a small face-to-face meeting. I find it hard to modulate my voice, especially when I&#039;m passionate.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my case, I find that I have a hard time raising my voice even though I am not angry. It&#8217;s weird &#8212; when I am quite passionate about something, and when discussing something, I tend to raise my voice as though I was lecturing a large classroom instead of talking in a small face-to-face meeting. I find it hard to modulate my voice, especially when I&#8217;m passionate.</p>
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		<title>By: Stormy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stormy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 01:48:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for sharing your story. I liked your point of acceptable emotions:
&gt; the only emotion that is seen as acceptable is anger (and
&gt; sometimes humor), and somehow these are the only accepted
&gt; &quot;business ready&quot;.
As the parent of two boys, I worry that our society teaches boys that the only acceptable emotions are anger and humor. We tell them not to cry. (I actively argue with people who say &quot;don&#039;t be a girl, stop crying&quot;!)
I don&#039;t think it&#039;s healthy to channel all emotions into anger.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for sharing your story. I liked your point of acceptable emotions:<br />
> the only emotion that is seen as acceptable is anger (and<br />
> sometimes humor), and somehow these are the only accepted<br />
> &#8220;business ready&#8221;.<br />
As the parent of two boys, I worry that our society teaches boys that the only acceptable emotions are anger and humor. We tell them not to cry. (I actively argue with people who say &#8220;don&#8217;t be a girl, stop crying&#8221;!)<br />
I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s healthy to channel all emotions into anger.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous to Public</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous to Public</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 20:36:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is great that you have posted this.  I&#039;m a well-known (male) executive in the Open Source space, and I constantly worry about this issue.  Ever since I was kid, I cry relatively easily.  While I&#039;ve never encountered, as you have, people thinking that I was accepting blame because I cried, I have experienced the emotional difficulty of being taken less seriously when, in the heat of a complicated business disagreement, that I&#039;ve started crying.
The whole idea that we are supposed to cease to be people with beliefs and feelings when we work is one of the reasons I&#039;ve focused so much on Open Source.  Unfortunately, it often seems that whether you&#039;re in Open Source or proprietary software, the only emotion that is seen as acceptable is anger (and sometimes humor), and somehow these are the only accepted  &quot;business ready&quot;.
I have paid close attention to feminist issues in the workplace issues, and often heard jokes (usually from women themselves) that all a &quot;Women in the workplace&quot; seminars teach you is &quot;how not to cry at work&quot;.
Meanwhile, as a man who has often been looked down upon because he&#039;s capable of crying in the workplace, I actually fall on the other side of this: we should be changing our workplaces so that anger and humor aren&#039;t the only accepted emotions.
Nevertheless, I commend your attempts to find new ways to deal with the situation.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is great that you have posted this.  I&#8217;m a well-known (male) executive in the Open Source space, and I constantly worry about this issue.  Ever since I was kid, I cry relatively easily.  While I&#8217;ve never encountered, as you have, people thinking that I was accepting blame because I cried, I have experienced the emotional difficulty of being taken less seriously when, in the heat of a complicated business disagreement, that I&#8217;ve started crying.<br />
The whole idea that we are supposed to cease to be people with beliefs and feelings when we work is one of the reasons I&#8217;ve focused so much on Open Source.  Unfortunately, it often seems that whether you&#8217;re in Open Source or proprietary software, the only emotion that is seen as acceptable is anger (and sometimes humor), and somehow these are the only accepted  &#8220;business ready&#8221;.<br />
I have paid close attention to feminist issues in the workplace issues, and often heard jokes (usually from women themselves) that all a &#8220;Women in the workplace&#8221; seminars teach you is &#8220;how not to cry at work&#8221;.<br />
Meanwhile, as a man who has often been looked down upon because he&#8217;s capable of crying in the workplace, I actually fall on the other side of this: we should be changing our workplaces so that anger and humor aren&#8217;t the only accepted emotions.<br />
Nevertheless, I commend your attempts to find new ways to deal with the situation.</p>
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		<title>By: Runa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Runa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 10:36:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would have to agree with benr here. Awesome post! :)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would have to agree with benr here. Awesome post! <img src='http://stormyscorner.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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