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	<title>Comments on: Ubiquity: turning us all into power users</title>
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		<title>By: Stormy</title>
		<link>http://stormyscorner.com/2008/08/ubiquity-turning-us-all-into-power-users.html/comment-page-1#comment-1137</link>
		<dc:creator>Stormy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 11:43:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the functionality exists, we should make Ubiquity commands for it so that Ubiquity users can use it as well. I think it&#039;ll be easier to get Ubiquity users hooked on desktop functionality and then want to use it in other apps, than it will be to just convince them to use Deskbar-Applet without knowing what all it does for them.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the functionality exists, we should make Ubiquity commands for it so that Ubiquity users can use it as well. I think it&#8217;ll be easier to get Ubiquity users hooked on desktop functionality and then want to use it in other apps, than it will be to just convince them to use Deskbar-Applet without knowing what all it does for them.</p>
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		<title>By: Sebastian Pölsterl</title>
		<link>http://stormyscorner.com/2008/08/ubiquity-turning-us-all-into-power-users.html/comment-page-1#comment-1136</link>
		<dc:creator>Sebastian Pölsterl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 05:42:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As deskbar&#039;s top &quot;bug contributor&quot; Mikkel already mentioned you can do most of this stuff with Deskbar-Applet which is part of GNOME already.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As deskbar&#8217;s top &#8220;bug contributor&#8221; Mikkel already mentioned you can do most of this stuff with Deskbar-Applet which is part of GNOME already.</p>
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		<title>By: Jussi Kukkonen</title>
		<link>http://stormyscorner.com/2008/08/ubiquity-turning-us-all-into-power-users.html/comment-page-1#comment-1135</link>
		<dc:creator>Jussi Kukkonen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 15:27:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; Can we integrate those desktop tasks into Ubiquity?
Why not, but I think this is backwards. It&#039;s natural that Mozilla wants the browser to do things like this, but that doesn&#039;t mean it&#039;s a good idea from a desktop perspective.
Firefox should export the details (like things needed to define &#039;this&#039;) via an API and Gnome Do should include the web based tasks that ubiquity does so well now. That would be &quot;doing one thing and doing it well&quot;.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>> Can we integrate those desktop tasks into Ubiquity?<br />
Why not, but I think this is backwards. It&#8217;s natural that Mozilla wants the browser to do things like this, but that doesn&#8217;t mean it&#8217;s a good idea from a desktop perspective.<br />
Firefox should export the details (like things needed to define &#8216;this&#8217;) via an API and Gnome Do should include the web based tasks that ubiquity does so well now. That would be &#8220;doing one thing and doing it well&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen</title>
		<link>http://stormyscorner.com/2008/08/ubiquity-turning-us-all-into-power-users.html/comment-page-1#comment-1134</link>
		<dc:creator>Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 14:06:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Talk about a Freudian slip... By &quot;bug contributors&quot; I meant &quot;top contributors&quot; :-)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Talk about a Freudian slip&#8230; By &#8220;bug contributors&#8221; I meant &#8220;top contributors&#8221; <img src='http://stormyscorner.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen</title>
		<link>http://stormyscorner.com/2008/08/ubiquity-turning-us-all-into-power-users.html/comment-page-1#comment-1133</link>
		<dc:creator>Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 14:04:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Deskbar Applet is infact included in the Gnome Desktop module. See http://www.gnome.org/projects/deskbar-applet/.
It can do everything you mention and more. It was the first of the search/command-interfaces in the Linux world to my knowledge and is still lighting the way for many related projects IMHO (me - being one of the bug contributors - caveat emptor! :-D)
Gnome Do is also excellent, but not exactly my type of UI.
But is it really necessary to type &#039;calc&#039; before your expression? Surely the application knows if &#039;17*23&#039; is a mathematical expression or not. Deskbar does at least :-)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deskbar Applet is infact included in the Gnome Desktop module. See <a href="http://www.gnome.org/projects/deskbar-applet/" rel="nofollow">http://www.gnome.org/projects/deskbar-applet/</a>.<br />
It can do everything you mention and more. It was the first of the search/command-interfaces in the Linux world to my knowledge and is still lighting the way for many related projects IMHO (me &#8211; being one of the bug contributors &#8211; caveat emptor! <img src='http://stormyscorner.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':-D' class='wp-smiley' /> )<br />
Gnome Do is also excellent, but not exactly my type of UI.<br />
But is it really necessary to type &#8216;calc&#8217; before your expression? Surely the application knows if &#8217;17*23&#8242; is a mathematical expression or not. Deskbar does at least <img src='http://stormyscorner.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: ethana2</title>
		<link>http://stormyscorner.com/2008/08/ubiquity-turning-us-all-into-power-users.html/comment-page-1#comment-1132</link>
		<dc:creator>ethana2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 10:15:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Finally!  We have discovered that the trick to making the command line not suck is making it usable in our native language!  Bravo!
I alias commands all over the place.  I&#039;ve got my &#039;install&#039;, which is actually &#039;sudo apt-get install&#039;..  I&#039;ve got my &#039;uninstall&#039;, which is actually &#039;sudo apt-get remove&#039;, I&#039;ve got my &#039;frigging&#039;, which is actually &#039;sudo&#039;...
Command line is amazing if it&#039;s done right.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Finally!  We have discovered that the trick to making the command line not suck is making it usable in our native language!  Bravo!<br />
I alias commands all over the place.  I&#8217;ve got my &#8216;install&#8217;, which is actually &#8216;sudo apt-get install&#8217;..  I&#8217;ve got my &#8216;uninstall&#8217;, which is actually &#8216;sudo apt-get remove&#8217;, I&#8217;ve got my &#8216;frigging&#8217;, which is actually &#8216;sudo&#8217;&#8230;<br />
Command line is amazing if it&#8217;s done right.</p>
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		<title>By: jorge</title>
		<link>http://stormyscorner.com/2008/08/ubiquity-turning-us-all-into-power-users.html/comment-page-1#comment-1131</link>
		<dc:creator>jorge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 09:57:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was thinking along these lines while I was using ubiquity. I started to find myself trying to use it while I was not in my browser, and then realizing that normally I use GNOME Do for that part, but for some reason I find the &quot;natural language&quot; part of ubiquity easier to think out than the &quot;command&lt;tab&gt;argument&lt;tab&gt;argument&quot;.
Maybe someone can bridge ubiquity&lt;-&gt;gnome do together and/or enable ubiquity to do more things out of the browser. For example it&#039;d be nice to get that &quot;insert map&quot; feature to run inside evolution.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was thinking along these lines while I was using ubiquity. I started to find myself trying to use it while I was not in my browser, and then realizing that normally I use GNOME Do for that part, but for some reason I find the &#8220;natural language&#8221; part of ubiquity easier to think out than the &#8220;command<tab>argument</tab><tab>argument&#8221;.<br />
Maybe someone can bridge ubiquity< ->gnome do together and/or enable ubiquity to do more things out of the browser. For example it&#8217;d be nice to get that &#8220;insert map&#8221; feature to run inside evolution.<br />
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